Creating relationships with your partners that go the distance

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Creating relationships with your partners that go the distance

Welcome to the Business and Sequins podcast. I'm your host, Jo Blowfield. This podcast is for any woman who wants inspiration, practical help, and a big load of sparkle and the three areas of business, health, or wealth. I have real-life conversations with women who share their journey, their ups, downs, wins and challenges. If you want a bit of sparkle in your life through these great woman stories, then thank you so much for joining the Business and Sequins podcast. Welcome to another episode of the Business and Sequins podcast. Today I'm talking to the lovely Sammi Jaeger. She is the founder of fuel collective and the co-host of the Dave River podcast. She is borderline obsessed with the way the quality of our relationships impacts the quality of our lives, Sammi uses her unique blend of knowledge on business, relationships, and contribution towards creating a better world. Sammi is a huge advocate of the UN Global Goals and knows that to make true global progress, starts with the quality of our relationships. fewer clicks is more than a business. It is a movement towards better relationships and a better world. By using a blend of business and relationship tools. They empower couples to create and keep thriving relationships, flip the model of Relationship Coaching, from reactive to proactive through the eight tanks fueled up life methodology, which allows couples to quickly identify what area of the relationship needs fuel before it hits empty.



Wow, welcome to the show, everyone. I am so excited about having Sammi on the show. Sammi, you just do so much. And I mean, I've just read your bio to the listeners. And I'm sure that they are blown away by what you've achieved and what you've done. I think that your business is just incredible. And I think that so many people need your help. And I'm just so excited to be talking to you today. So welcome to the show, Sammi. 



Oh, thank you for having me. And thank you for giving me an opportunity to share a little bit about my story. And yeah, what we're up to



Yeah, and I'm so excited because Sammi is wearing sequins. So we do yeah, I know we've got a version of this that will be available on YouTube. And we'll take a photo pop up onto the website as well, so that you can see that Sammi has very good sequins. So a lovely silver jacket. So I'm really happy. Thank you.



Yeah, well get in the spirit of it.



Absolutely. So Sammi, yeah, I've read your bio, but you want to tell us briefly, in your own words, just a little bit of background about your own journey, both in business and personally.



Yeah, so I have made a clunky transition from intrapreneur, to entrepreneur. So to go like way, way back, I left high school with not a great plan. Not having a great intention of where I wanted to go, I sort of dabbled, I have what I call a cross-pollinated career. So I like to spend all this time in the fitness industry tality industry, in recruitment in training and education. And now I hang out with business owners. And also I have a business with my husband Nathan, from Theo collective, where we're hanging out with couples who are trying to build a really strong, healthy, happy, thriving relationship. But I really didn't think that I was an entrepreneur, I really didn't think that I had an image to be a business owner. And it was probably my true like, independent out on my own business journey. Really, I started in 2019. When I resigned from my big grown-up the biggest job, I'd had the biggest smile that I'd held as General Manager and training and development company working with business owners. And I left quite abruptly, a couple of decisions were made in the business and I just couldn't see myself down long term anymore. I felt really incongruent, leading a team to a feature that I knew I wasn't very proud of. So I resigned with very little plan and went out into the big wide world of freelancing and did some freelance sort of project management things on program design and product design and public customer journeys. And basically, if you've got a really big idea, I'm really great at helping you unpack it and figure out what the first 100 steps off. I've got. I love business. I love helping people take that idea and turn it into fruition but yeah, so I spent kind of a year freelancing and working with all these small business owners on these kinds of things. What I realized was I didn't need to have a boss, I didn't need to have the safety net of the structure of having a job. I actually really loved working for myself. And in that year, I kind of started teasing out an idea that I had probably been sitting on for five years and went, Okay, well, if I was going to do this for real, what would that look like? How would we monetize it? What would be the structure? And that's kind of where I landed into at the end of 2019. was to start what is now dual collective it was project dinosaur time. Yeah. And we have built an online digital business that offers tools, resources courses, for couples who are in the first few years of their relationship, and they want to set it up for success long term.



Well, that is incredible. You know, well done on starting your own business. And, you know, you said that you were his attempt about being a business owner. I think you're a great business owner. I find your business fuel collective because not only that, but you've got podcasts as well. You're doing podcasts? Yeah. So what's your podcasts are the date forever?



Yes. I host the debt free podcast alongside my husband, Nathan. And we chat with couples and experts about the tips and tricks they've found to keep your relationship fueled up. That's basically the premise of what if we just dated ourselves and actively dated the person that we've chosen to do life with forever? And how do we do that in reality and practicality?



Yeah, so tell me, because, you know, the fuel, the fuel click to tell me how that came about those, you know? Yeah. And how, what sparked that idea to get that going.



So Nathan, I got married in 2012. And we were quite young, 2324 years old. And sort of, in the first five years of our marriage, lots of our friends that sort of followed suit. And they, you know, met people that they had long term intent with, and we're in our mid like, mid to late 20s. And we're already saying more than a handful about friends go through really horrendous breakups. And in some cases, the wars, and it was crazy to us are like approaching the 30s. And we already knew divorcees, and when we sort of examined what it was that was going on, we realized that in all of these couples, all of these relationships, there was either one, or sometimes both members of that couple had never actually seen a healthy, happy, thriving relationship up close. So they were going into these relationships, without a blueprint without something to model, you know, a great relationship on. And we definitely don't learn a lot of those skills at school. And if we're not learning at home, we now know that, you know, the divorce rate, unfortunately, is still around 57 in Australia. So we know that almost one in two people, it's pretty likely that they've been brought up in a home that either went through a divorce went through a big separation, where they didn't have both parents around for a period of time. And then that's where then going out into the world and modeling our own relationships on if we haven't learned at school, haven't learned at home, where do you go to do that? So we kind of have this idea of like, well, what is in the market? So a couple two elective met that person, they found someone pretty keen that they want to do life with, but how do they go about learning some of the relationship and life skills that they're going to need to make it last as long as they both wanted to? I think sometimes going their separate ways is absolutely the right thing to do. But maybe we could have known that before we walked down the aisle before we merged at all of our lives. And there's some conversations that couples seem to either not be having, or not listening to, to sort of figure out some of those things early on. Yeah, so we went to the market and kind of looked and there was lots of information for dating, how to present well on the ads, how to find someone how to ask them questions, how to get a second day, how to get started, all that fun stuff. And then there's kind of like a blip of information available for couples who have got engaged and doing pre marriage counseling, where they've already decided that if we're doing this, we're all in is a little bit of info there. And then there's a whole heap of really quite sad like, the signs worn off. It's no the spots down, maybe we've had kids or things have changed and we're no longer happy in our relationships. There's quite a bit of information for that, but there's not in that sweet spot of like, let's set this up from the beginning. To be really awesome, and to be what we want it to be, and to consciously choose the type of relationship that we're going to have now and into the future. 



Yeah, it's, gosh, I'm with you, because I think marriage is just such hard work. And you know, you really are, you know, you're picking a person, because that's the person that you want to spend the rest of your life with. And they have different opinions, they've got so many just different ideas, they move at a different speed. And it is hard work. How long do you work with a couple for?



So our flagship product is called the coupling team. It's an online course made up of 12 modules that helps couples kind of have a framework to have some conversations around, like, what are our culture and values inside our relationship? What's the big vision and mission for our lives and where we want to go as individuals, but also, as this team knew? What are our skills? What are our strengths? How are we going to be able to divide and conquer the fundamentals of running a household, because we do need the light love and romance and fun and connection. But we also need to be a team, we've got a life to run a house to run clothes towards food to cook. And it's in that sweet spot in the middle where we help couples have some conversations around all of these things, that maybe they've not ever approached before. Because I do work with couples that have had children or do it with couples that are about to have children or kind of both. Yeah, so we love working with couples here who have decided that their relationships and priority lives. Yeah, so a lot of the Nathan, I haven't had kids. So we don't until we can't, I can't share my experience of how your relationships gonna change. I don't have a lens of personal experiences to draw on for that. But we've had clients who've gone through the course who are, you know, 5678 years into their relationship, and they've got young kids, and they've got so much out of the course. And it sparked conversations that they literally never had before. And going, Oh, that's why we keep having that problem. That's why we keep having that issue or whatever it might be. So our intent is that anyone who wants to improve their relationship and has decided that our relationship is a priority, we can probably help you fine-tune from little things. Yeah.


As I see two, we've been coming out to married now. For nearly 20 years, we've been together. Yeah, thank you. But you know, how has because COVID changed? You know, it has I think COVID has changed mine and my husband's relationship for the better, only because we sought help. Because with COVID, he was away for two weeks out of the month and then decided to come back. Go Well, he COVID stopped him from travelling so much. And we realized quite early on that we had to get used to each other again and realize how we work because we work together as well. And, you know, COVID pushed us into the way outside the comfort zone, we now do go we go to marriage counselling, we go every six weeks just as an app key, and it's money well spent for us. Great. Yeah, I love that. Oh, I just love it. He's my best friend. And so I just want to you know, I would kind of want to protect him and cherish and rather than, you know, fight with them all the time. But how have you gone through COVID with couples and the relationship through COVID?

Yeah, I think there's been a lot of sink or swim kind of moments for couples and for relationships, there's been couples who have been, you know, really early in their relationship, and it's accelerated them moving in together and, you know, taking reworking states and things like that, because just how do you maintain a relationship if you physically fights each other, or those kinds of things, as in couples who have gone from like, you know, frequent traveling, and that was me, I was, you know, on a plane, probably like, at least once or twice a month to not at all. And Nate's working from home full time, and just things changing. And I think that if you decide that your relationships and priority like you obviously have dirt, that you can have it however you want it to be, but I think it takes conscious design. So we've seen all sorts of things about our clients and with our community, big collective, doing different things and reinventing their relationships. What is date night look like when we can't make it out? To let it go? Or do we actively go about creating unique experiences for each other?



And how do you cope with ammo? How do you get couples as well? Because, you know, creating a relationship where you're both winning takes vulnerability from both parties. How do you get couples to open up to that vulnerability?



So one of the great things about an online course is that people get to do this in the discreet privacy of their own homes. So we're not the stories that we hear or what people choose to share with us. But we know that there's some really incredible conversations that happen. But I think a lot of the time, we've not ever seen a framework for a conversation around what does healthy conflict look like for us in our relationship, we've provided a framework that we will just sort of like go over what does what do we agree are the ground rules for our relationship and how we will work interact with each other, and things like that? I think it's scary, like to go to a stranger, and whether that's a counselor or a therapist, or whatever it might be, and they're your soul. But I think Nathan, I have created a really great framework, where couples can do that with each other, and they've kind of got that third person to triangulate with that person's not hearing. So I think I mean, Nathan, I don't claim to be psychologists, therapists, coaches, any of that, we just unload off how we build tools and resources that have helped us a way of knowing have helped other couples and provided them in a way that, take it, try it on. If it works, you awesome, keep it if it doesn't put it back on the rack. But it's about being conscious about how you do your relationship.


Yeah, and it's, it's your so true. being conscious of it. One thing that we've found is we've developed since going to our counselor is grace for each other. And to go, we've talked about how you do the little things for each other, which is make cups of tea for each other. So you kind of build up that goodwill bank. And then when you fight that good work, you know, when you fight you look at I kind of look at it and go Now does that really matter? You know, he's built up the goodwill bank, there's a lot of goodwill there. So actually, it doesn't matter so much. So now I feel like we have built up a lot of grace for each other. But we've also built up a lot of goodwill, so that we are constantly doing little things for each other now trying to build that bank all the time.


I love that you said this. And this is why we pulled the business skill collective, because it's this idea that what if we consciously added fuel to our relationship all the time, we didn't wait for it to break down but didn't wait till we've driven it for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles and it's clunking out on the side of the road? What if we added fuel every day, every week, every month? And what does that feel look like? And it can be the cups of tea, or it can be a willingness to say, hey, when you did x y Zed that really upset me and being open and vulnerable, that can be fuel, having constructive conversations about what you want to do next month, next quarter, next year, next decade that can be through. So I love this. Yeah, thank you for sharing that.


Yeah, it's um, I just think that. Yeah, I feel like we didn't have so much goodwill when he was away all the time. Because, yeah, we didn't really get a chance to build that goodwill. But now we definitely go out of our way to build goodwill, but also to what I've realized is that, instead of our fights, going for two weeks, you know, when we've begrudging each other for two weeks now, it's kind of, you know, a couple of hours, we've learned to reconcile, get it over, and then we move on, and it just life flows so much easier.


I think that that is one of the rewards of doing the work is that it's not just the conflict that gets better or easier. But the repair time is faster and the depth of your relationship with Isabella. And you can even do that productively, and figure out how you want to do conflict and how you want to repair and what was the true issue? And what will we really fight about? Is this or is it something that kills? Or is this something for a child with it's like being triggered somewhere here? Like but the repair time is us not angry? not heard? No. And you can move on so much faster, which is such a gift. Yeah. And lose all that time? 


Yeah, absolutely. And counting you get on because you work with your husband and your business. So how do you what do you to do in order to make that work? Yeah.


So we both have our like day gig. So Nate's an electrical engineer, is an engineering manager. So he's got his gym. And then I work with a couple of other businesses in business coaching, and I've got another I've gone, full entrepreneur. I went from zero businesses to three businesses in three years. I love Yes, so I yeah, we, I think what I'm trying to say is that we both have our separate warehouses that we do keep separate. And that helps us have an identity outside of our relationship, our business, our podcast, totally overlapping everything we do. actively try and keep some things separate. Working together has been amazing. definitely challenging in parts. I have worked for smaller, agile, fast-moving businesses, Nate has worked for slow, heavy defence, government businesses, and just things that are different from the amount of red tape that Nathan normally has to go through in his day gig, he doesn't have to do that, as a business owner, you know, if he wants to make a change in the website, he can log into the back end, and change something on the website. So it's been really beautiful to watch him grow and evolve and learn all these new skills around video and editing and juicing and marketing. And, you know, he's developed this whole other language that I've never had been used to before. And saying, I've learned so many things that I'm not so great at that he just backs me up. And I don't think I really truly ever appreciated that I bring the activation energy and he brings the follow-through. And now I knew that at a totally different level, I can see how that plays out in our, in our wider relationship, not just as business partners.


I love that. Do you find that in your relationship that you I was talking about this with another woman a couple of days ago, in regards to if one of us down the other ones usually up and then you kind of pick the other one up? And then you know, at times the pendulum just changes all the time, but you're there to pick the other one up. And I think in business, you know, you go through those moments of when one of you is down and go the other ones up. So you just pull each other up to that same level. But well done working together. So you guys have got the podcast. Tell us a bit more about your podcasts.


Yeah. So the podcast started as our little like toe in the water. Because we were like, we're not coaches, not therapists, neither of us are coming to this relationship space as a relationship expert. So it was kind of like, cool, we'll let's launch the podcast, we'll have some cool chats with people who are experts. And then with everyday couples, we're hopefully putting some of these things into practice. So it's a little bit of a way for us to test industry and go, is this something that we want to do? Are we willing to have the conversations ourselves started to build a little bit of, an audience? And like, do people even care about this? It? Will this resonate in a really low, low-risk way, and build some relationships with people who are the experts who do have some of these tools and resources and things? And then what can we do to pull them into one place and create a collective community of people who care about this stuff. But the podcast has been such a gift, and might we launch the big in March 2019 at three in 2020. So right at the time that the pandemic was like fishing, and it's been amazing, because we've, we've talked to incredible people every week, for 80 something weeks now had all these incredible people come into our life into our world. And often it's not just a one hour podcast, we never speak to them ever again that we've developed relationships with these people. And you know, some of them were collaborating on other projects and things bringing them in as mentors and advisors and stuff on your collective and the content that we're producing for our clients. And the podcast is a gift. And it's allowed us to get out of our own way. And I'm sure you had this experience too. During when we were starting. We were like, oh, why would people want to listen to us? Like, why we don't have the, you know, the degree or the research paper or any of that some stuff. It's just we've just got our lived experience. But as I've done the podcast, and we've shared more about us and our relationship and how we do things and the lessons that we've learned along the way, like, it is quite unique. We're both in our early 30s. And we're approaching a decade of marriage. Like that's weird. haven't met too many other early 30-year-olds have been married for over a decade. Yeah. So what we've realized is that we're actually far more interesting than maybe what we first saw, which is cool.


I love that because yeah, you do you go get it. And I've gone through it as well with the whole podcast and going No, I don't think anyone's gonna want to listen, do I really need to do this? And what if people don't like it? But yeah, my husband just gives me a good kick up the bum and just go says Get on with it and do it. And so go with the fuel collective Do you normally catch is the kind of a group Do you normally catch people when they're sort of two years into marriage? Or when they're eight years into marriage? Or do you have you found any kind of consistency with regards to people when, what time they come to you?


So we've partnered with quite a few celebrants so couples who are engaged or looking at getting engaged, or Yeah, in the planning or in session, we have quite a few audience who find us that way. I wish I knew, like honestly that that we're talking to an audience and a market probably They don't know they have a problem there in that problem on the west age, they you know, they're deeply in love that will never happen to us. No victims, their marriages, and it was that that we won't be one of them. Like all that sort of stuff. It's very, it's romanticized. And it's amazing. And I love that. Yeah, I think that's amazing. But I think it's also a marketing challenge for Nathan I and the business to go, Well, hey, things are losses. Now, don't do the work, it might not stay that way. right on there for a little bit. And not to say that relationships have to die and window and lose their shine. But I think if you choose to keep it secret, and sparkly, it can stay that way. You have to make the choices as to make them commitment to keeping it that way.


Yeah, I think you're absolutely now that was, yeah, you've got to do the work, you have to do the work. And, you know, it's like your course, if you're gonna do your course, you have to do the whole course you can't just do part of it. And then expect expect the relationship to work. You need to do the full thing and follow the full thing through. whenever it's on stations, do the activities have the hard conversations because they are hard, you know, and I'm assuming that your course covers everything like three to six as well. I'm assuming it does the whole thing.


Here we talk about the element of like, have fun. It's kind of relationships can swing both ways, right, where you've got all of the roommates and the sign but none of the housework and teamwork and collaboration on the life stuff. Kind of not working well the other way where you perfect housemates and everything's humming along great, but there's no fun romance sex, like, somewhere in between me in really do need both. There's this great quote from Alain de Botton. He talks about like marriage, you know, people see it as this romantic, gooey thing. But in reality, it has a lot more in common with this whole business of hiring, firing, scheduling, budgeting, all of those operational things, and especially if you've never been in business before when you learn that stuff. So we cover all kinds of things. I love it so


much. When Ambrose and I first got married, we decided on two things we decided on was actually three things, we decided that divorce just wasn't an option for us. Not at all. And secondly, that if we made each other happy, then our children would be happy. And thirdly, that we would always pick each other as each other's favourites. So our kids come to us all the time and say who's your favourite? And for me, it's always your dad as and for him. There's always good manners, and our 12-year-old tries to you know, she'll go, she'll do something, she'll turn wrenches. I'm your favourite? No, oh, yeah.


And I applaud you for that. Because without you and your husband or his kids, you wouldn't exist. But also to say it, we just decided they can't divide us. If we've got if we are first and foremost with each other, then there's no division. And they have they tried it just it's actually over the years. It's made me laugh how many times they have tried to get into that first favourite spot, but it just now does yeah, and then. Yeah, she'll just look at our 12 year old especially, she'll just look at me and just go Yeah, I know, dad's your favourite.


Isn't that beautiful, though? What a great role model that you're going to a because that's what you want for them. I'm sure that you want them to have a partner who chooses them first? 


Yeah, absolutely. Well, my husband comes from his parents were divorced when he was young. I come from, you know, two parents who've been together, you know, for nearly 50 years. So you know, two very different relationships.


But you know, as you've said, that we've put you put in the hard work. And if you put in the hard work, then you reap the rewards. And I love how you have said that you know, it's so similar to owning a business because yeah, it really has I haven't actually thought of it like that before. Yeah. But it is so true. This is and this is where that intersection sort of came from is that I realized, so as we were watching a lot about our friends there through these like really achy breakups and divorces and stuff. It was like, what do we know? That maybe they don't know? Or what are we doing that maybe they weren't doing? Or what is it that what are the skills or things that we've built up and not to say that Nathan out perfect by any means? But I had the realization that is there is a shit ton of things I have learned from business owners who've been submerged in environments with business owners tech is tackling all kinds of problems around team and outsourcing and budgeting and forecasting and structure and that some of those things are definitely linked into our relationship in a positive way. Like, oh, we're approaching a lot of things and running our household and our lives the same way that a business owner would map out their calendar or their budget or goals as well. Yes, yeah. What is it that we're trying to achieve?


Yeah, I really love it now also, too, you are an advocate of the UN for the global goals. Tell us about that. Yeah, so the United Nations global goals for Sustainable Development Goals came about in 20 days. And basically, we came together as a United Nations and decided, these are the 17 big problems that the world needs to solve. And each of those 17 goals has some set targets. But these 17 goals are things that need to be top of priority for us as a planner, every person needs to rally around making an impact on 123. However, many of these 17 goals, you can move the needle on, there are things that you that we all do day in, day out, that we could be doing in a more sustainable way. And the intent is that we try to hit these goals by 2030. So lots of people probably don't even know that these goals exist. And I would definitely recommend go and jump on YouTube. And watch the way the people video said a few million views. Not enough. But the idea is that if we don't take care of this planet, and the people on this planet, live your shit, Craig.


Yeah. Yeah. What are some of the 17 goals that are on that you've got?


Yeah, so the 17 Global Goals cover things like life below land, life below, life on land, things like low poverty, things like quality education, sustainable cities and living climate, action, war, peace and justice for all. They cover everything, you know, things like claim sanitation, water, like, how is it 2021? And that sort of problem that not everybody around the world has access to clean drinking water? Not right. It's not right, we can do better. 


It doesn't it blows my mind that we can, you know, send me an app. And these spaceships Yeah, very easily to have a look around and have a look at the earth. But you know, we're not putting clean water into places that are needing it. And what so what have you learned through the process of being involved with global goals.


So the day that I saw the way that people video, I think it was 2016, I fundamentally changed as a human being. And I saw it, it was played out of the video, the video site at a conference that I was attending, I was in a room full of 500 people, the video goes for a couple of minutes, and it's talking about that we must be the generation to make these changes. And I was crying, a good cry with the strangers next to me. And I, I changed, because I realized that we can spend a time-solving small crappy day to day problems in our lives, in our relationships in our businesses. But here are 17 really big problems that we need to all level up, we need to get rid of these small problems, and we need to level up and play a bigger game to make some really big changes. So what I've learned is that business can be and must be a force for good. I don't know, I don't know that I believe that government will be the driving force for change. I believe that it will be businesses and business owners and entrepreneurs and innovators who make changes that lead us out of the mess that we've we've been making and also making. It'll be people and consumers we decide to buy from businesses whose sustainability becomes a big part of that purchasing decision. And I think it's really hard for consumers sometimes to go into work and look at the $1, a litre milk next to the $6 a litre milk and make the right choice because that's really, really hard on the consumer level. But it's up to that business to grow. Not we're not going to produce that $1 option. That's not okay, the way that we have to treat the world, the planet, the animals, the supply chain, to get that outcome at $1. We're not going to do it anymore. And we all have to start making decisions to level up this level up the way that we're trading on.


I think that is amazing. So did you say by 2030?


Yeah, we're not on track. There's, there are some analysts who've done some work, who have crunched the numbers is a really great Central. I wish I could remember to save my head who says like, you know, we're at 2021. Now, can we actually make it could we actually still make it? There's some that we would have to start there. Like we would have to go from zero to 100 Today, just to hit it, but I think this to start For, even if we can't hit all 17, I absolutely think that we should spend the next nine years hustling our offices off to move the needle on some of these things like climate action. Like, we don't want our planet getting hotter. Not a difficult concept.


I think even if you can move the needle only 10%, it's still 10% better than that was before you started. So I think, you know, any action or any change of that needle is just beneficial in a, you know, if you've got that needle changing over 17 different goals, there is huge change.


Absolutely. So one of the things that Nate and I have done as a result of, I guess, my advocacy of the United Nations for the goals is that when we started building to collective giving, and the contribution to the global goals was going to be part of the fabric of the day. And I like part of why this business exists, and we're going for quite well. So it has to be a winner. For Nathan, I, like the business has to be great for us, the business has to be great for clients to get the outcomes that they want me it has to be great for our partners, the people that we work with contributors have to be grateful. There has to be good for the world. So the way that we're doing that is they're rallying behind education projects. And for me, I just feel like every dollar that we invest in education has a huge ripple effect is one of the fastest ways that we can get people up above that poverty line. And it's just for me, I can't wrap my head around, things might change and things aren't changed. And if knowledge is power, let's give everyone more knowledge. Let's books are quite inexpensive ideas are quite inexpensive. We have a huge amount of smartphones that lay dormant, those are incredible tools and resources that we can lead distributing and a far better way to educate more of our planet. So yeah, we rally behind education projects, and we do by our partnership with by one, give one, which is an organization that vets projects all over the world. Yeah, so that we can give 100% of our use to that project. So they have all the matching facilities and the vetting and the research and validation, all that sort of thing. So we know with confidence that when we make a contribution to a project, it lands where it needs to.


I just adore it. I love buy one, gift one as well. I think that it's an amazing concept. Gosh, I I am unaware of you, I think you did you say that you're just coming into your 30s you're just achieving so much just, you know, I'm really in awe of you. I think you're doing just such an incredible job. And I think I can't wait for your journey ahead of you. But tell us quickly, what is your budget? What does your journey look like? What what are your future plans.


So I would love to say full transparency, I would love to make 400k profit a year, work 40 weeks a year, only four days a week, I want to spend more time travelling, seeing the world hopefully we get to a place where that's possible and easy to do. But the way that I make that 400 pay and work those hours, I want to be doing work that matters when and where I want. And for me, work that matters means moving the needle on these United Nations global goals. It means making an impact on businesses and business owners and empowering them to do what they want to do. And to ensure that our relationships get better. Because if we have more people who have healthy, happy, thriving relationships at home, they're going to be able to scale up and help me move the needle on 17 it's really hard to break this outwards when you're in pain at home. Yeah,


oh my goodness, I just think you're incredible. I think you just doing such an amazing job I can't wait to see and help your business, you know, achieve what you're wanting to achieve. I just think that you've just got the most amazing skills to be able to you're doing it on a global scale for the world as well as at home for people who are at home and need that help and I just think wow for you to have that vision to be able to have the big vision and the big goal but then also pull it right down to your the smaller goals while you're helping that individual. I just I really take my hat off to you. And I think Gosh if you've learned all of this and just such a small amount of time, you know, when you when you're up and running like full-on I just yeah, I can't wait to see what you're going to be like continuous time. I really can't do it will it is compound interest the whole way and I just think compound learning the whole way. Do you just get quicker, better, go faster, it everything as you're going. But I love that you're doing it with a solid relationship with your husband. You're not doing it alone. Yeah, you're not trying to take out a loan, you're doing it. And you're putting, as you said, you know, you're putting fuel back into your relationship. And you're putting fuel into, the global world as well. I just I really take my hat off to you. But this is we're coming to the end of this. I've loved talking to you, I could talk to you forever. Actually, I think it's amazing. I've got two quick questions that I asked all about all of our guests. So Sammy, if you could pick a colour of sequins that best describes your personality? What colour would that sequins be?


Well, I've got my like motley silver, gold bronze secret jacket on today. I think it'd be a silver sequin because I think it reflects a lot the best and it shines in and reflects refresh, refreshes. Refresh out in all of the different shades. So I yeah, so we'll say good for me.


Perfect, absolutely perfect. And then also to, on a scale of one to 10. If one is that you're dragging yourself out of bed every day and 10 is that you're dropping glitter and sequins everywhere you go. Where is your life currently on the sequin scale, the sequin net scale, I am currently day on a no week 789 are locked down in New South Wales. So my sequins not as shiny as usual, or where I would like it to be. And let's be honest, we don't all have great days of great weeks, every week, I've been making a really conscious effort to move my body consistently and close all three of the reins on my Apple Watch the last like maybe three, four weeks. I'm feeling pretty good. So I'd give myself maybe like, I don't do seven? Because seven is hell no. So I'm going to give it an A I'm pretty good. Pretty good.



Yeah. I love that. I love it. And then quickly before we go as well. And do you have any quick tips just for our listeners just in case they are struggling with the relationship or anything like that? Do you have any tips?



Yeah, date yourself, and date your partner. And dating does not have to be this big extravagant thing. It's about creating unique and conscious experiences for yourself. And for the person that you've chosen to do life with, be silly, create things, make things, try a different recipe, like, go out and do a boxing class together or whatever it might be. But make, decide that you are a priority. Because your relationship with yourself sets the terms and every other relationship that you have. So nail that first figure out how you like to spend time in your own company, and do that regularly. And then the flow and from that invest in your relationship and whatever that looks like for you. Whether that's growth, whether that's learning whether or not it's having more sex, and then it's having better conversations or improving your conflict, figure out what it is that needs a little bit more fuel in your romantic relationship and go about adding it.


Brilliant. That is such good advice. Oh my gosh, I love it. Thank you so much for joining me on the Business and Sequin podcast. You know, at some stage, I would love to have you on again and talk more to you. And thank you so much. I'm sure the listeners have absolutely loved the show and have learned a few things along the way. But Sammi, thank you so much.


Thanks, Jo, nice to give me a reason to bust out the sequins and lockdown life.


And also to listeners, we will also pop down below in the show notes as well. All of the details in regards to Sammi’s cost that you've got as well when opening makes me

a couple and team I would say it towards the end of September is our next intake. So yeah, come on over your we've got a whole heap of freebie resources. So do for slash freebies, and you'll get a new game plan agenda, we

get all the downloads, checklists and things that might just help you move the needle in the interim. Great. I love that. And we'll put all those details down the bottom of the show notes so that you can get in contact with Sammi and yeah, gosh, put fuel into your relationship and keep it strong and keep it going. Again, thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining me on this episode of Business and Sequins. Thank you so much for letting me be the voice in your ear or the noise in your ear for this last little bit. I hope that you've managed to find some form of inspiration or motivation or even that bit of sparkle that you're looking for in the stories and conversations That you've just heard. Don't forget, if you're wanting a bit of help, and business, health or wealth, then don't forget that we've got our Business and Sequins membership. So thanks again for joining me, and I look forward to having you join me on the next episode.

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