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Jo  

Welcome to another episode of Business and Sequins. Today I'm pretty excited about our episode; I get to speak to a lovely, lovely woman who I think is just absolutely bold and absolutely beautiful. It is Rebecca Saunders, who some people having actually described Rebecca as a "Video Ninja". So she is today talking to us about 'all this video'. And just in regards to her business as well, so Rebecca Saunders at the age of 22, packed a small bag and booked a one-way ticket to Sydney with her laptop and just $500 in her pocket. She had a dream of living in Australia. She now produces live virtual events and education content, and has a selection of online courses an she is pretty kick-ass. She is incredible. So in today's episode Podcast, Rebecca will give you some great hints and tips for being in business and if you are thinking about having great video content as well. So let's talk to Rebecca. Welcome to the Business and Sequins Podcast. I am so excited to have "Video Ninja", herself Rebecca Saunders in the Studio with me. Welcome to the Business and Sequins Podcast Rebecca.

Rebecca

Ah, thank you, Jo. I'm so excited to be here. It's so much fun. 

Jo

Oh my gosh, it is and thank you for I love being around people like her because she just pushes you outside the square. She is a ninja when it comes to video. I took one of her master classes about a week ago, I think it was. And I just sat there taking notes. And then I think it was two or three days later, I just messaged her and said, "Oh my gosh, I've already recorded 10 videos a shirt", but I was just so excited. And she just pushed me outside the square again today. So we are trying new things. And here we are. So Rebecca, for the guys that haven't heard your intro, would you like to in your own words, just tell us a little bit about your journey to where you are right now.

Rebecca

Sure, so Oh, I don't. I don't even know if you know that whole backstory to my journey. But I arrived in Australia when I was 22. I literally got on a plane with a one way ticket, 500 bucks and a laptop and just a dream to go, I am going to live and build my life in Australia. That was it. I just knew I wanted to live here. It was going to happen any way that I possibly could. And after a year, and I'm sure there's many people out there that have get this on a working holiday visa, working in hospitality and cafes and doing everything you possibly could just sort of, you know, getting the money for the rent, realized that I just wasn't cut out to be a employee material, and be finding someone that would hire me to sponsor me for the next four or five years to get my residency to seem like something that just was never going to happen. So I built my company to sponsor myself. That's Wow, so it wasn't the cheapest way of doing it. I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't the easiest way. But I did build my video production company initially to sponsor myself. So what that meant was, because I've got a background in journalism and my degrees in journalism, I could script right like I could carry that across into script writing, content writing. But it meant that I had to hire every single other person to do every other job in a business that I wasn't legally allowed to do. Just sink that in for a second. Like from the get go, I had to hire people to do all the jobs that I wasn't allowed to do. So from day one, I was literally paying myself a market rate salary, three other people a market rate salary. And it just had to work. It just had to work. I was telling people that I had a nationwide production company when I was just in Sydney. And yeah, you fast forward 10 years from that. And you know, I'm sure we'll deep dive into many of it in this conversation, but or much of it, I should say in this conversation. But now it's a global company, which is pretty cool. Like, yeah, hit the decade, decade overnight. It's the thing.

Jo

I know, isn't it, you gotta love it, you've got to love that when you're like, oh, you're just so lucky to be so successful. And it's taken 10 years to get here. But congratulations on reaching 10 years because you know, not a lot of businesses even reach five, let alone You know, 10 years. So that is a huge milestone. I hope you've celebrated that 10 years,

Rebecca

Not properly yet with the team because thanks to lockdown, but we will be celebrating it. Yes, I did pop some champagne.

Jo

Oh, well done, well done. So you left with $500 in your pocket, and a laptop. And just this belief that you know what will happen will happen that you can't get your residency. And now you're going I'm going to create a company to sponsor myself to stay in the country. I mean, where did you get this courage from to be able to do this?

Rebecca

I just it just had to happen. I really, really don't know I think if I deep dived a lot. There's been a lot of resilience and courage building I guess through having alopecia as a kid, like if you've kind of deep dive into just getting up keeping going, like ignore what people are saying doing something differently. Being different, I think builds that resilience in a sense, but at the time, I don't know I'm saying that off the back of the best part of a decade of self development in learning this stuff is I felt the company but at the time I was just so hell bent on. I'm staying in Australia. That's where I'm going. That that is literally where I want to live. And nothing was gonna get in my way. I was just stubborn, I suppose.

Jo

I love it. I absolutely love it. And so just circling back for any of our listeners who haven't, who can't physically see, because at the moment, she is just the most beautiful presence of empowerment. So as Becks said, she had alopecia as a child, is this something that you've had through all your childhood or was that something that just came on?

Rebecca

Came on when I was about seven. So varying different stages of alopecia as the partial hair loss, and then there's full hair loss, and I think there's probably something else as well as three of them. I just don't know all three, but I have complete so alopecia universalis, which is I've got no hair anywhere. So all these people struggling in lockdown with the hairdresser's not really my thing. It is not causing me any issues. Well, that is that is lacking. Yeah, I can laugh about it now. Yeah. Because since I was seven, so the best part of 25 years.

Jo

Wow, yeah, that is huge to grow up with, you know, and I just love how you have just gone. That's it. This is me, this is who I am. And I love how boldly you are standing and who you are, because you are just beautiful. So I have to just tell you guys, when I first met Beck, we went to a retreat just earlier this year, and we met for the first time, personally, and Beck was just standing there and this just most beautiful. What was that, like a dress? And I think yeah, caftan. And she just looked like this absolute beautiful Goddess. And I just looked at you and thought, oh my gosh, you are bold, you are empowering, you are just You are just wonderful. And I love that you've just taken on this whole new brand, and you just stepped into it. So you know, well done. Oh my goodness. So tell us, tell us about your company. What does your company do? Tell us all about it.

Rebecca

So as an organization, my company is a video production company. So we have three arms of the business that we do. We've got recorded productions. So that is your come work with us film with us pre record your, you know, maybe it's educational content, maybe it's case studies, promotional content, that kind of thing. We specialize in live virtual events. So historically, you know, that has definitely been streaming live from our location streaming live from our studio, the last 12 months have seen us do a lot of live virtual events with everybody in their own home, which was absolutely mind blowing a total mind shift, again, for us to manage that. And then I've got a number of online courses and programs that I open several times a year to help business owners and individuals progress in their video journey.

Jo

That is incredible. Because, yeah, pivoting quite a lot with the whole pandemic, and getting everything up online. How do you cope with that? Because I mean, I'm stressed enough as it is just doing like this, this interview without all of the technical bits that you have to do? How do you cope with that?

Rebecca

So I think, really, for me, I have a very small niche team that are eager to learn new skills and just stay above like in front of the curve. So you know, when it came to, it's a pandemic, what are we going to do? everyone's working from home? How do we do video? It definitely was for us. We are a decade ahead, we are lightyears ahead of the average person, the average business owner, because we know the equipment, we know what to do with video. So we just dived into how can we help people? And so really, for us, it was several things, or two really main things. Number one was let's upskill on our live streaming. So just let's see what's out there. See what platforms could actually be sustainable because what we didn't want to do is promote something and talk about something and use something that wouldn't work. And then the second thing was I just opened up my calendar just to say, if you've got a question, come and ask, just come and have the conversation. Because it just, you don't know what you don't know, at the end of the day. And also for me no questions too silly when it came to just seeing businesses just have to close doors and almost fall apart. If I can help you with 15 minutes of my time. You can have 15 minutes of my time. And that's really how us as a team sort of took took the pandemic and ran with it. And for us the live streaming the ability to have crews across the country and across the world has helped us a lot and help quite a lot about corporate clients. But it was genuinely just, I think being there to help. Just, we're here, if you need us just have a conversation. It wasn't pick my brains for hours and hours and hours. It was you have 15 minutes, we can solve this. And you can either go yourself, or we can help you with this. But it was definitely just opening the you've got 15 minutes of my time. And that helped a lot.

Jo

That is so good. But also to 15 minutes, you're able to get out to a lot of businesses and fit with 15 minutes. Yeah, I love that. And I love that you've set boundaries as well going, you've got 15 minutes, yeah, we can do this really, really quickly in 15 minutes, if we're focused, love it. 

Rebecca

And no one has actually broken that boundary for me. No one, they haven't really gone above that no one's got annoyed that I've said, I've got to wrap this up. I'm really sorry, or you know, anything like that. So I'm really grateful that has been respected.

Jo

Yeah, but that is the whole thing, isn't it setting boundaries? And if everyone is aware of those boundaries, then they have healthy boundaries. That's when people aren't aware of the boundaries, and then you say, Look, I've got to wrap it up, that's when we start getting into trouble. And if we're not clear about those boundaries, how do you deal though, with equipment? Because usually what because when I think of visualize your own videos, you know, doing all that I think of equipment, a lot of equipment. So how do you get on with regards to being able to, you know, video, somebody in their own home out to globally out to the world with equipment.

Rebecca

Okay, so on the basis of sort of DIY stuff, any presentations that I do, personally, or anything that I do in this environment, or any form of interview content that I do myself, I make a point of doing all of that solo, so no team, just using equipment that people can buy off the shelf and learning the skill. And the reason I do that is it takes time to learn how to be comfortable on camera, it takes time to learn how to use a new platform, how to use a new piece of tech. And I think the key thing there is you've got to learn it, you've got to take the time to learn it. And I've done that, because I've had a number of speakers come through and say I've bought this piece of equipment, I've bought this stuff, and it's just not working for me. Well, have you read the instructions of how to use it? No, no, I just thought it would work if I plugged it in. No, like it takes hours of time. And so a lot of my content you'll find when you follow me online, and that's what you've said from the masterclass you watched a few weeks a few days ago, was, I'm giving helpful tips because I'm learning it too. Because believe it or not, after 10 years of running a production company, I don't use the big cameras and I can't edit it's a business that I'm running of a job that I don't actually technically do myself. And so from the DIY side, I can show you all of that. And obviously there's limits to the capabilities you can do from home within certain budgets. So managing things globally, managing on site productions, we're really specific on the type of camera that's used the specifics in terms of recording cost styles. So that that can be specifically done time and time again, in the same quality, because you're never going to get the same quality DIY as you would do bring in the professional so it's again, that boundary thing of these are the boundaries, I can do solo by myself. And if I can do them, you can as well, this is the big team and bring them in, and this is the next level you can go to. 

Jo

Do you believe with? With video that, you know, things have changed that there was a time where everyone wanted professional videos, you know, it had to be at a certain standard and now, I hear a lot of people kind of bantering around that whole, you know, it's better to just get it up than having it perfect. What do you think about that?

Rebecca

I'm thinking I think it depends 100% on the start on what you're using the video for. If you're doing a podcast and interview series, a vlog whatever you want to call it, that's okay being a little bit rough and ready around the edges. If however, you've got a product or a service that you are selling for 1000s 10s of 1000s hundreds of 1000s of dollars to potential clients. You need a level of professionalism in what you're selling and what it is that you're putting out in the world. So I definitely think there is room for both.

Jo

Yeah, I love that. Because, I think because we do both because you know I do recordings like this and then we have our own green screen where we do the recording. But literally I've learned to do that myself because out of necessity. And yeah, I feel like It has kind of eased up. I think the pandemic, it's kind of influenced it easing up a little bit as well. And just in regards to, it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect, I miss you, you are selling those 1000''s and 1000s dollars worth a product, then you really you do need to step it up, depending on your target market. But otherwise, you know, if you're doing videos for Instagram now it's okay if it's not perfect.

Rebecca

Yeah, and I think for me, and you saw a slide like one of the best slides in my presentation day is "be your own Shaun the Sheep", like don't just be a sheep, be a Shaun, find your own style, own it, craft it, put it out there. So you've got to start somewhere Rough and Ready is totally fine. But everyone, I say everyone, the majority of people that business owners follow, they follow online, they aspire to be, they have a team of people creating this content for them, they are bringing in the professionals, they've done it for a decade, it looks good, because they've crafted the skills to do it. So I think you're right in that you can DIY stuff up until a point and then you kit the next pricing bracket and the next level and you just need to sort of step it up a bit. But it is all a learning curve it is all about honestly, understanding where you're at practice does make perfect. Everyone hates to hear that one. Practice really does make perfect and then you know, consistency and experience in in just repetitive nature of of the content that you're doing.

Jo

How do people because you know a lot of women that I talked to just find being on camera and showing their face on camera. Really hard to do. And how do, I know, I think I know, what you're going to say. But how do you just get used to that?

Rebecca

Practice.

Jo

I knew you were goin to say that.

Rebecca

Look, no one likes the sound of their own voice. No one likes what they look like on camera and hunt. You know, I've never met someone that goes, I look great on that every single time. No One No One at all. So for me, the way I overcame that at the beginning was to just not watch anything. I left it to my I'm very fortunate that I have a production team at my disposal. But I never watched any of my content back. So I never got that I never nitpicked myself, and I feel that's the biggest hurdle on people trying to pre record content, right? So, for me, live streaming, or going live is very different to pre recorded content because pre recorded content, you film it, you watch it back, you critique yourself really bad. You do it again. And that's kind of on repeat until you either bring in a professional or give up. That's just it. And really, the first take was probably pretty good. Yeah. So I think if there's one key takeaway for me from from this part of the conversation for your audience is very much just put it out there, put yourself out there, your audience doesn't want you to waffle. So if you feel like you've just waffled something, don't put it out. But if you're just critiquing the way you looked or your frown lines or you know, my face is wonky, just get over it, just get over it. Just no one no one but you with going to notice that.

Jo

I know. And I keep coming back to those words to them. Not as many people are watching as you think they are. Yes and that everyone's so absorbed in their own life that you know, they don't really actually care if you know your lipstick isn't on right or you haven't got mascara on. But it has it's been a big evil, a big hurdle for myself to get over putting myself on camera because yeah, I've pushed my husband to the front of our business so that he could be the one that was on camera. And now it's myself and I knew you were going to say you just have to practice, I knew you were going to say that.

Rebecca

It is just the way it has to be. Yeah. Practice.

Jo

I've found to that. For videoing, especially for doing stories and stuff like that. If I'm doing something else that takes off, it takes my mind off the fact that I've got a camera sitting right in front of me. So I like walking. Walking I reckon is the best tip if you want to do live walk into your life or your video, and then you don't you're not concentrating just on that one video. You know that one thing that's going on?

Rebecca

You can overthink it, you can get stage fright in your own home in front of your own camera. So, yeah, yeah, hit that button, hit record, send it to an assistant, send it to a friend. Push the go live button. You've just got to do it, you've got to push through.

Jo

Do you do reels or anything like that on Instagram? That kind of thing? 

Rebecca

Yeah, I have but not to your level Jo. I do not.

Jo

I've been fired by my level, my family fired me from doing TikTok's with them, after standing on one of the children's toes and then kicking the other one, as they fired me and said, I'm out of the group. So it's probably not a good level to be trying to get to.

Rebecca

I know but you will definitely take them to a whole new level. I do them occasionally. I have a number of them lined up for my launch week happening in four weeks time. So yeah, for me, it's a whole different mind shift with reels, though, because it's it's something I specialize in educational content and big format content, right? Like, I can make you look and sound incredible, I can create video content for you so that your brand doesn't look like anybody else's. So you'll never get a Oh, that was a Rebecca Saunders production, you'll get Oh, who did who did your videos, like, there's no stamp of my style on any piece of content that I produce. And so trying to get my head into just reels and doing things to the beat of the music. That's what editors are for. Their job, not mine. Yeah. So it's been a mind shift to try and figure those out.

Jo

Alright, cuz I'm not, but like you to where I'd, I'd rather take the reel out, put it into, you know, Premiere Pro, which is a video editing software and put it in there, then fix it all that put all the words and get it all animated and everything properly, and then put it back into reels. Whereas you can't do that. You can't do that in real time.

Rebecca

You kind of can. It's not native to the platform. And so people notice, and you can spend a lot of time I mean, I spent hours watching them, I really have to stop this week diving into watching reels back to back of an evening. But yeah, it again, Joe there it takes practice, you know if you can batch film a lot, and just get them done. Perfect.

Jo

Yeah. So if somebody was to just start doing go wanting to put together a little sort of, in a bit for the company, just sort of a little, I don't know, branding short video for the company, and we would they start.

Rebecca

Okay, so I've got two starting points depending on what you're wanting to do. So if you're wanting to sort of do more DIY stuff, I would definitely or regular piece of content, I would be looking at your frequently asked questions. What are the questions that your audience or your current customers are constantly asking you? And then create content to answer those. So I want to get people to start with 12. They write their 12 questions. They filmed our videos, they released one a week and all of a sudden, they've done a quarters worth of content. And if you take one step up from that, you can either keep asking, and you know, what do you want me to answer one of the questions you have about my company, or you can just answer the exact same questions again, in a slightly different way. And so that sort of is your basic point of if you've got, if you've got video on your to do list, and you just don't know where to start, that would be my starting point. That could be a piece of educational content that you put on your newsletter, it could be a live stream, it could be a podcast that you record, like we're doing now, any of that kind of stuff, frequently asked questions is your starting point. And then if you've got a little bit of budget, I will be putting that into getting a promotional video for your brand. So who you are, what you do, why you do it? Why should someone work with you. And that's something that a supplier at a professional production company or or you know, videographer will be able to help you craft that story and design it in a way that sells your brand, the way you want the story to be told.

Jo

Oh my goodness, I love that. And so you have got your course that's opening up? I do. Yeah. Tell us all about it. Some people who are listening, okay, actually, I'd like to put together a branding, you know, yeah, tell us all about it.

Rebecca

So the "Video Accelerator" opens three times a year, it's opening again on the 2nd of November for the last time in 2021. And it's essentially a six week tailored program where you get video modules taking you through how to get started, like you go through my entire scripting system and scripting is could take on a whole podcast Yeah, right could take hours but whether you script it or whether you bullet point, you know, there's a whole thing there as to as to what you should be doing to get the most out of your videos. There's one week where we talk about filming and editing because like I said before I don't want to over complicate it I want you to be able just to get it done so I give you all those hacks and then we talk through live streaming and how to multipurpose those videos and and all of that is across six weeks with Q&A with me live once a week you get access to that content for 12 and then we can you know you can join my video club ongoing afterwards if you still want to spend time with me after that but yeah, six weeks and I just want you to nail your video content just get the courage step up. Step Up step out.

Jo

Yeah, that's, I love that, "step up, step out". I love that in six weeks boom done. Ready for 2022. Oh my goodness. Because the whole thing like even my husband when we record for him he uses like a PowerPoint thing that he's got that his points aren't bullet points. He's very good at memorizing the content. And I have just started with a teleprompter. Yep. And so for those that don't know you know the teleprompter it scrolls up and it gives you all of the words but giving it to the speed that I talk on the teleprompter has been in absolute mission because I slowed it right down and then it was I would be alright halfway and yeah, and then I'd get halfway through and it would be so slow and it took me about 10 goes to finally realize where I should have it on the sliding scale of speed but it's not easy.

Rebecca

No and he is there's a whole way of writing a script for a teleprompter so that you don't have you know there's ways of of typing it so that it's the right speed all the way through rather than just part of the way through because of the way that you structure sentences but you're right you know your hubby is probably really attuned to presenting the PowerPoint slides and so he knows that those visuals of that PowerPoint slide is half of his notes in his head he just needs those other three bullet points to to make sure he's on message you know if you want a bit so yeah, there's pros and cons to both.

Jo

Yeah, I yeah, I'm so unsold. On the teleprompter, I would I kind of do like to wing it a bit. But then I do think to myself when I gearing up when I get off winging it I think to myself, I missed the key points because I was winging it so much. The need for teleprompter is the but maybe not every single line written out maybe just key bullet points. I think.

Rebecca

I am a huge teleprompter fan and I have used them for years years. I love it. I love for me, I script my videos when I'm on my morning walks. So I will voice memo my content, get it transcribed, put it into notes, write that as a script and then read it out professionally. So they get that there's one there's one step of the scripting system their voice memo your notes, turn it into a script and then craft it and yeah, I absolutely love it particularly for me so I can go back now and rerecord all of my course content completely hair free in exactly the same way because it's all there, all scripted and ready to go. And the ability then once you do it to just smash out so many videos in a period of time. Great.

Jo 

Yeah, I love that. I love as you said, like, the tip that you've just given us we could stop this podcast right now, like that tip that you just gave us in regards to voice filing, you know, put it into a script, and you're done. Like we could just stop the podcast right now. There. That was gold.

Rebecca

Golden nugget.

Jo

That is a golden nugget that I'm going to be using from now on. Brilliant, absolutely love it. And so where do you see the whole world of video of this whole video, you know, people wanting to do videos, and because you must have seen it progress as well over the time of your company to just in regards to technology and what's available and what can help businesses because I think of 17 years ago, when I started business, the technology that was available was this zero compared. I mean, gosh, you know, what was it the cameras without phones and it were only just kind of coming in. So if Facebook just wasn't even a thing, so I kind of see it as you know, this is evolution. And now you know it is pretty amazing. Where do you think it's gonna go?

Rebecca

Oh, it's definitely not gonna go anywhere, that's for sure. Um, look for us. We've definitely seen you know, why people questioning why they should pay the professionals to do something they could do with their phone. And I think it comes back to what I spoke about earlier in terms of there is a place for DIY stuff and there's a place for professional stuff, and that could be a budget perspective, that could be the look and feel of your content, it could be the way that you've upskilled yourself. But at the end of the day, for me, I know that it comes down from my clients to time. Definitely time, do they have the time to learn new skill? Do they have the time to do all of that stuff? Is it easy for them to sit, jump in front of a camera at home, and then send the footage to someone else to edit, and they know they've done it? Is definitely a way of both sides working together. But what I do know is that video isn't going anywhere. So if you're not doing it, and I can feel people cringing through the recording right now. You've just got to bite the bullet and, and start creating Yeah, comes back to my Shaun, you know, don't try and be someone that you're not just find a way that that you can present and you feel comfortable. Because if you're trying to create content and pretend to be someone on camera, you're never going to get the message across, you're never going to enjoy it. And you're not going to get the interaction that you want from your audience.

Jo

Yeah, I think Yeah. And again, it comes back to that comment that you made earlier, just about being authentic, about Shaun the Sheep. Because Yeah, and people can see through it, people can see through it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And because with platforms like Instagram, and TikTok and stuff like that, you know, it's becoming more apparent that businesses are getting into these platforms now. And it's even for those platforms, too. I think sometimes you do need that professional video. If you're wanting to do that proper advertising on platforms like Instagram and TikTok. And things like that. I think sometimes it can just step it up. If you've got a really good branding video that you can put on there that you know, gives all of the points that you were talking about. So I think definitely there is a place for doing a selfie video yourself and getting a professional like Beck, in to do it for you.

Rebecca

Yeah, 100% there's room for both and, and for me, I think I think that's why we've I've been so successful in the industry is that I'm not precious about it, you know, you either gel with me and my team or you won't but either way, I can tell you what to look out for working with the pros. And I can tell you what to do if you want to give it a shot yourself. So yeah, yeah,

Jo

I look back on some of the videos that I made two years ago when I first started with like doing our own videos and things like that. And I went through that stage of putting like, the background music in the background on everything up really loudly. And in the interior. When we put the course out and people coming back going. I can't hear what he's saying, because of the background music being so loud. And it was like, I thought it sounded really good with the background music and your customers going No, no. Ah, gosh.

Rebecca

You were learning a new skill. You're learning a new skill, new platform. 

Jo

Yeah, absolutely. I think so. And so you've just embraced, as I mentioned earlier, you've embraced your new brand, this new, beautiful color of pink and just the new brightness of you. What about you as the human? What are you? What are your plans for the future?

Rebecca

Oh, I'm just gonna keep going. like to be honest, Jo, I've launched the Rebecca Saunders brand, really at the beginning of 2019. I don't even know maybe it was 2020 whatever the beginning of the pandemic was how ridiculous the years are in my mind, I think it was last year. And I've only just really stepped out as as me to go and do something different. Step up as me and be my authentic self on camera and on my photos. So I'm just excited to see where that energy takes me. I put those photos out of me without any hair on on my social media platforms. And they've just gone nuts nuts with people saying thank you for being so inspirational. Thank you for stepping out thank you for being courageous and sharing no flaws for want of a better word or anyone put it that way. But for me, I felt that way of just ah okay, let's just put it out. Let's just press the button and I pressed the button live and I just walked away for 48 hours and just but their, their responses have been great. And so I'm just I'm harnessed into just seeing where the energy goes.

Jo

Yeah, yeah. I'm excited for you. I'm so excited for you because I just, I think it is it's just, it is inspiring to be around and I'm inspired to watch you. And you know, I've watched your company and I've watched you do all these celebrations and with what you've achieved I'm excited to see what you've got coming up for the future. So good.

Rebecca

I can tell you that I don't quite know what it's gonna be. But I can tell you that it's feeling good. Yeah.

Jo

Yeah, I think it's going to be bright I think it is. So I've got a couple of you've already given some great tips. So usually I asked for three tips. But you've already given so many great tips through the through the podcast already. So I thought I would jump to my last two questions that I asked everyone that comes on Business and Sequins. So the first one is, is that if you could pick a color of sequins that best describes your personality? I think I might know what color it is. What color would it be and why?

Rebecca

Oh, it's definitely going to be pink, pink, hot pink. Um, it just makes me smile. It makes me smile. The color makes my eyes pop. Like when I wear it. I love it. Just if it makes me smile that energy shines through and it makes my customers Smarties. So yeah, definitely bright shiny pink with extra glitter.

JO

With extra glitter. I love it. It does. It's just, it is uplifting. It really is uplifting. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm in the pink style, too. And then also too, we do a sequins scale of one to 10 one thing that you're finding it hard to pull yourself out of bed in the morning, and 10 being that you're dropping glitter everywhere you go. And life is so good. Where is your where do you feel your life currently sits on that glitters on that sequins scale,

Rebecca 

I'm gonna put mine and nine if not nine and a half. The other half and that little bit at the end is just because I can't walk far enough from my home to spread it a little further in. Yeah, 100%. That's glitter everywhere. And I love it. Love it.

Jo

I do too. Oh my goodness, oh, if I could give you a hug right now.

Rebecca

I can feel it.

Jo

I just love talking to you. So thank you so much for giving up your time on the Business and Sequins podcast. I look you've given some great insight there. And I think that the listeners will be able to take away some fantastic tips in there as well. Thank you so much. And I can't wait to do another interview with you in the future as well. And just have another chat to you about where you are and the travels that you've gone through with your business and even deep dive even further into the whole video because I find it so fascinating.

Rebecca

It's a date.

Jo

It's a date, Yeah, let's do it. But thank you so much for coming on Becks.

Rebecca

Thanks, Jo. Thanks for having me. Thanks for listening.

Jo

Oh yeah, well it was worth it. Thank you so much. Okay, bye-bye.